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品葱用户 革命児 提问于 7/12/2020

      Protests Rock Russian Far East With Calls for Putin to Resign

**     Tens of thousands took to the streets in Russia’s usually somnolent hinterland after the arrest of a popular regional governor.
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     MOSCOW — Tens of thousands of people protested in Russia’s Far East on Saturday in a rare display of opposition to President Vladimir V. Putin in the country’s vast hinterland, chanting “Putin Resign” and demanding the release of a regional governor arrested this past week on suspicion of multiple murders.
     The protests in Khabarovsk, a city bordering China, and several other towns were the largest in Russia’s usually somnolent provinces in many years, rivaling or even exceeding in size demonstrations last summer in           Moscow, the main center of opposition to the Kremlin.
Unlike streets protests in Moscow, which the authorities can easily discredit as the work of a privileged metropolitan elite led astray by Russia’s enemies in the West, the outburst of anger against Mr. Putin in a hardscrabble region nearly 4,000 miles east of the capital presented an unusual and potentially more troublesome challenge.
      The demonstrations in towns across Khabarovsk Krai, a sprawling region that stretches from the frontier with China to the Arctic along the Pacific Ocean, followed the arrest on Thursday of the region’s popular governor, Sergei I. Furgal. He is one of Russia’s few provincial leaders not affiliated with political forces entirely controlled by the Kremlin.
      Mr. Furgal, a member of the Liberal Democratic Party of the nationalist rabble-rouser Vladimir Zhirinovsky, took office in 2018 after defeating a Kremlin-endorsed candidate. Despite his affiliation with a party scorned by Russian liberals as a collection of crackpots and crooks, he has now been embraced by many Kremlin critics as a victim of political repression by Mr. Putin.
Aleksei A. Navalny, a Moscow-based anti-corruption campaigner and Russia’s most prominent opposition leader, cheered Saturday’s protests in the Far East, hailing the street demonstration in Khabarovsk as the “biggest in the city’s history.” Mr. Nalvalny tweeted a video of the protests and a message of support: “Far East, We Are With You!”
     The Ministry of Interior, which controls Russia’s regular police forces, estimated that between 10,000 and 12,000 people had joined the protest in Khabarovsk. Local news outlets put the number at more than 40,000.
State-controlled media ignored the protests while giving extensive coverage to troubles in the United States, particularly a spike in coronavirus cases. The focus on America’s problems instead of Russia’s Far East led Dmitri Alekseyev, a wealthy businessman in Vladivostok, a city east of Khabarovsk, to comment on Facebook that “it seems I am living in the U.S.A.”
    City authorities in Khabarovsk, the regional capital, tried to prevent the rally by sealing off the main square, claiming that it needed to be disinfected. But municipal police officers stood aside as crowds poured peacefully into the center of the city.

              Protesters said they were concerned that Mr. Furgal’s alleged crimes had suddenly been used to depose a governor.Credit…Aleksandr Kolbin/Reuters

     Videos showed festive scenes of protesters, both young and old, waving signs in support of the arrested governor and chanting “Freedom for Furgal,” “Moscow Get Out” and “Putin Step Down.”
     Protests were also reported in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, an important industrial center, Solnechny and other towns in Khabarovsk Krai.
     A former timber and scrap metal trader, Mr. Furgal has long been trailed by accusations of criminality.
     But protesters said they were less concerned about his innocence or guilt and more concerned that his alleged crimes, ignored for nearly two decades by investigators, had suddenly been used to depose a governor who, unlike Mr. Putin, had won a real and competitive election.
       Appearing in court in Moscow on Friday, Mr. Furgal pleaded not guilty to charges of multiple murders and attempted murder in the early 2000s. His arrest now, so many years later, was widely seen as politically motivated, the latest heavy-handed strike in a rolling crackdown unleashed after a rigged national plebiscite on constitutional amendments effectively entrenched Mr. Putin as president for life.
     After seven days of voting, the electoral commission in Moscow last week announced that Mr. Putin had won what the Kremlin described as a “triumphant referendum on confidence.” More than 78 percent of voters endorsed amendments that allow Mr. Putin to crash through term limits previously mandated by the Constitution and stay in power until at least 2036. He was supposed to step down at the end of his current term in 2024.
      But Mr. Putin’s image as a can-do leader has been badly battered by his often passive response to the coronavirus pandemic and a deepening economic crisis. His approval rating has slumped in recent weeks to its lowest level since taking office more than 20 years ago.
     While other countries in Europe or East Asia have slowed the pace of new infections, Russia is seeing nearly 7,000 new cases a day. And it risks new spikes following the lifting of lockdown restrictions in Moscow and most other places ahead of Mr. Putin’s constitutional plebiscite and a huge military parade in Red Square.
     Few commentators expect street protests to snowball nationwide and force Mr. Putin to step down, not least because the Kremlin controls an immense security apparatus adept at crushing demonstrations.
      But events in Khabarovsk and angry grumbling across the country over growing economic hardship suggest that Mr. Putin has lost his aura as an invincible leader supported by a large majority of the public.
      Mr. Putin has for years faced periodic outbursts of street protests involving mostly young people in Moscow and St Petersburg, Russia’s biggest and wealthiest cities. But aided by relentless propaganda on state-controlled television and loyal security officers, Mr. Putin has swatted his critics away, sneering at them as spoiled troublemakers out of step with ordinary Russians in the provinces who have repeatedly re-elected him by ever-increasing margins.
     But none of those presidential elections, which have excluded would-be opposition candidates like Mr. Navlny, has come close to being free and fair, leaving the Kremlin reliant on secret opinion polls to gauge Mr. Putin’s real level of support.
     Protests in places like Khabarovsk provide a rare unfiltered view of what many people, including those with no connection to Mr. Putin’s inveterate critics in Moscow, might really think.
     Sophia Kishkovsky contributed reporting.

出处：https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/11/world/europe/russia-protests-putin.html

品葱用户 同人志 评论于 2020-07-13

没什么好看待的，楼上那些回复给我感觉好像是第一次知道俄罗斯居然有人反普京一样。
中国跟俄罗斯没什么可比性，俄罗斯这种相对开放的社会，只要人口中有百分之一的人是反普京的同样能组织起抗议活动，
抗议成本相比中国这种地方可是低的很，起码警方暴力没那么严重并且那些反对派领袖多数也就被关个几天就放出来了。

基本上年年都有自由派组织反普京示威，规模大和小而已，18年就来过几次规模比较大的全国性的反普京示威活动，养老金问题算是把很多老头给逼反，但是过了一段时间又消停了

跟往常一样，这种示威动摇不了普京。

况且这次的示威规模相比18 19年还显得比较小
普京近期玩连任都没法激起更大规模的抗议活动，看起来俄罗斯人对于变革并没那么多的动力去做

只要人口占多数的中老年人不翻盘，靠年轻世代中也才百分之四十反对声音的年轻一代就不可能斗得过普京
未来当然是属于年轻人的，不过得等老头死光了才成立

品葱用户 習近平下台 评论于 2020-07-12

我原來瞧不起俄羅斯。

現在看起來，中國，伊朗，俄羅斯，朝鮮排序，

俄羅斯第一，伊朗第二，中國第三，朝鮮第四。

品葱用户 dororo之泪 评论于 2020-07-12

要是中国人也反抗一下就好了，我知道他们会死，但他们居然觉得理所当然（还是只有粉红这样想？）

品葱用户 Emmanuels 评论于 2020-07-12

感觉普帝不如一尊心狠手辣。换了在墙内，上街的韭菜直接灰飞烟灭了。修宪这个事，普帝比一尊高明。因为普帝用的是交易。取消宪法中不合理的条文，同时换取清零自己以前的任期。这样做，既让其可以长期在位，又不会让继任者像他一样，继任者还是得遵守宪法的任职限期。而一尊做的动作，不是只针对他自己，他下了，接任的人都可以享受此成果。

品葱用户 MyWolf 评论于 2020-07-12

看了一下原文，爆发点其实主要是当局抓了个当地受欢迎的官员，说他约20年前犯了谋杀罪云云，这举动被人认为是普丁的政治迫害，所以才走上街头。

我好奇若薄熙来当年被抓后，重庆有数万人上街抗议北京会是怎么样的情景…

品葱用户 全职猎人 评论于 2020-07-13

感觉普金不如习近平主席心狠手辣…什么啊，因为普金用的是交易。。。。这样做什么就是谈交易了？

品葱用户 Kindergarten 评论于 2020-07-12

桂芝人嘲笑俄罗斯属于蚍蜉撼树，你球鄙视链最低端生物还活在自己在文明世界里有一席之地的错觉

品葱用户 acehow 评论于 2020-07-12

布丁就是修仙搞独裁啦。不过维尼前两年就这么干了。独裁者为了自己的权力都一样的，俄罗斯和中国就半斤八两，一丘之貉，都是不怎么样的国家。非要比的话，中国更完蛋一些，人家俄罗斯好歹还能上谷歌油管吧。

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