有没有其他国家地区历史上和天朝上国一样惯于“满门抄斩”“灭n族”?

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品葱用户 伯乐 提问于 7/9/2020

严格意义上是:当局公开大量处决"危害国家政权的重罪犯"的非涉案亲属,甚至明文入律,为其明火执仗提供“法理依据”。

西欧历史我只找到一个案例:葡萄牙十八世纪的 Távora affair (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A1vora_affair)。西方还有没有其他案例(要有名有姓有据可查的)?

中东北非南亚等地什么情况?案例数量比天朝如何?有没有一个零头?

品葱用户 Laphroaig 评论于 2020-07-09

有啊, 納粹德國

Nazi Germany 
In Nazi Germany, the term was revived to justify the punishment of kin (relatives, spouse) for the offence of a family member. In this form of Sippenhaft the relatives of persons accused of crimes against the state were held to share the responsibility for those crimes and subject to arrest and sometimes execution. Many people who had committed no crimes were arrested and punished under Sippenhaft decrees introduced after the failed 20 July plot to assassinate Adolf Hitler in July 1944.

Examples of Sippenhaft being used as a threat exist within the Wehrmacht from around 1943. Soldiers accused of having “blood impurities” or soldiers conscripted from outside of Germany also began to have their families threatened and punished with Sippenhaft. An example is the case of Panzergrenadier Wenzeslaus Leiss, who was accused of desertion on the Eastern Front in December 1942. After the Düsseldorf Gestapo discovered supposed Polish links in the Leiss family, in February 1943 his wife, two-year-old daughter, two brothers, sister and brother-in-law were arrested and executed at Sachsenhausen concentration camp. By 1944, several general and individual directives were ordered within divisions and corps, threatening troops with consequences against their families. After 20 July 1944 these threats were extended to include all German troops, in particular, German commanders. A decree of February 1945 threatened death to the relatives of military commanders who showed what Hitler regarded as cowardice or defeatism in the face of the enemy. After the surrender of Königsberg to the Soviets in April 1945, the family of the German commander General Otto Lasch were arrested. These arrests were publicized in the Völkischer Beobachter.

After the failure of the 20 July plot, the SS chief Heinrich Himmler told a meeting of _Gauleiter_s in Posen that he would “introduce absolute responsibility of kin … a very old custom practiced among our forefathers”. According to Himmler, this practice had existed among the ancient Teutons. “When they placed a family under the ban and declared it outlawed or when there was a blood feud in the family, they were utterly consistent. … This man has committed treason; his blood is bad; there is traitor’s blood in him; that must be wiped out. And in the blood feud the entire clan was wiped out down to the last member. And so, too, will Count Stauffenberg’s family be wiped out down to the last member.”

Accordingly, the members of the family of von Stauffenberg (the officer who had planted the bomb that failed to kill Hitler) were all under suspicion. His wife, Nina Schenk Gräfin von Stauffenberg, was sent to Ravensbrück concentration camp (she survived and lived until 2006). His brother Alexander, who knew nothing of the plot and was serving with the Wehrmacht in Greece, was also sent to a concentration camp. Similar punishments were meted out to the relatives of Carl GoerdelerHenning von TresckowAdam von Trott zu Solz and many other conspirators. Erwin Rommel opted to commit suicide rather than be tried for his suspected role in the plot in part because he knew that his wife and children would suffer well before his own all-but-certain conviction and execution.

After the 20 July plot, numerous families connected to the Soviet-sponsored League of German Officers made up of German prisoners of war, such as those of von Seydlitz and Paulus, were also arrested. Unlike a number of the 20 July conspirators families, those arrested for connection to the League were not released after a few months but remained in prison until the end of the war. Younger children of arrested plotters were not jailed but sent to orphanages under new names: von Stauffenberg’s children were renamed “Meister”.

Present legal status

資料來自Wikipedia

品葱用户 漢族另类右翼 评论于 2020-07-09

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/族誅

族誅是一種將受刑人連坐其族處以死刑,為古代社會的殘酷刑罰。而族就是有血緣關係的親屬之合稱[1]。此刑法亦針對以家庭為本位傳統社會,例如古時的中國[2]。當其中一位家庭成員犯下通敵叛國、欺君犯上、密謀造反等滔天死罪時,當權者為免除後患、斬草除根就會對犯事者施行此嚴刑以鞏固自身政權。

與中國同屬儒家文化圈朝鮮日本越南,亦曾使用這一種刑罰。而朝鮮制度中對「族」的定義與中國制度中的定義是幾近一樣[3]

在中國歷史中,族誅始於商朝。當時被稱為劓殄,乃族誅的初形,斬殺犯罪者及其後代之刑。秦朝時發展為誅三族、五族、七族。隋朝時被隋文帝廢除,但在隋煬帝復行並擴至誅九族[4][5]

滿門抄斬是東亞皇室純血主義的理念延伸,純血主義本是漢族文化的瑰寶,後卻被由斯拉夫人和猶太人資助的民族虛無主義極左政權歪曲利用,退化成一個單純的高等恐嚇手段,這群共產流氓們並不信純血主義。

朝鮮勞工營、新疆再教育營裡面的囚犯很多都是被自己的一個家人牽連以至於全家都被關押的。

品葱用户 白头山伟人金正恩 评论于 2020-07-09

没办法的啦
支那人轻家国而重乡土,勇于私斗,怯于公战

品葱用户 四邑漁農牧工商總會 评论于 2020-07-08

譚嗣同《仁學》有言:「兩千年之政,秦政也,皆大盜也;兩千年之學,荀學也,皆鄉愿也。唯大盜利用鄉愿,唯鄉愿工媚於大盜,二者交相資也。」

孔子《論語》陽貨篇又云:「鄉愿者,德之賊也。」

魯迅則說:通篇「仁義道德」,其實統統都只是「吃人」二字。

品葱用户 巴比伦花园 评论于 2020-07-09

布尔什维克处决沙皇尼古拉二世就是的,全家一个不剩,全部枪毙。

品葱用户 NZRdlClr5 评论于 2020-07-09

我也想說沙皇
路易十六不知道算不算
豐臣家後代似乎也被殺光了?我記不清了

品葱用户 鸥鹭茫茫 评论于 2020-07-09

满门抄斩、灭九族这算痛快了,当你回顾那些剥皮,腰斩,车裂,凌迟,抽肠,估计你会吐。满清为什么这么野蛮,都是从前朝学来集大成的。要是没有八国联军输出文明秩序,现在的统治只会更暗无天日。

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